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Heart-Led Hustle Transformation with Alexandra Dotcheva 

 December 12, 2024

By  Tom Jackobs

What would you do if life handed you a second chance to rewrite your story? 🎻✨

In this episode, Alexandra Dotcheva shares her incredible journey from a violinist battling self-doubt to becoming a successful nurse, ethical real estate investor, and heart-led business coach. Her book, “It Really Is Simple,” inspires readers to embrace holistic self-improvement, while her compassionate yet bold coaching style empowers clients to reach their full potential. 💡🏠

This is more than an inspiring tale—it’s a roadmap for anyone ready to rise above challenges and transform their life.

🎧Ready to transform your challenges into opportunities? Tune in now and let her story inspire your next bold move!

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • The essence of a heart-led business
  • Transitioning careers: From music to nursing to real estate
  • Writing a life-changing book: It Really Is Simple
  • The birth of a coaching business
  • Real estate ethics and affordable housing
  • The power of investing in oneself
  • Screening clients for coaching: A blunt approach

About the Guest

Alexandra Dotcheva is a violinist-turned-nurse, real estate mogul, and holistic coach. She transitioned careers from Bulgaria to the U.S. after the 2008 financial crisis and now owns three real estate businesses. She was passionate about health, fitness, and financial independence, so she authored It Really Is Simple, inspiring others to overcome fear and chase their dreams.

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Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Unearth the insights within! Delve into the profound wisdom woven throughout our conversation. 

Speaker: 0:01
Welcome to the heart-led Business Show, where compassion meets commerce and leaders lead with love. Join your host, Tom Jackobs, as he delves into the insightful conversations with visionary business leaders who defy the status quo, putting humanity first and profit second. From heartfelt strategies to inspiring stories, this podcast is your compass in the world of conscious capitalism. So buckle up and let’s go. Let your heart guide your business journey.

Tom: 0:35
Buzzing your way folks, we’ve got a dynamite dame filled with divine diversity. Meet the Bulgarian born, violin virtuoso turned victorious R.N., Alexandra Docheva. From making melodies to mending muscles, she’s segued into running red hot real estate and a holistic health coaching business. So here to share her heart-led hustle and harrowing humor on The Heart-Led Business Show, Alexandra’s tale of transformative trajectories is not one to miss. So let’s tune in to the harmony of health, housing, and hitting high notes in life, only with Alexandra. Alexandra, welcome to the show.

Alexandra Dotcheva: 1:11
Thank you so much for having me Tom. Such a pleasure to be here. Thank you.

Tom: 1:14
Awesome. I’m so glad to have you here and to have this discussion because I think, you know, as I introduced you that you have quite a diverse background and I think this will be a really interesting conversation for our listeners to talk about the heart-led business. I always ask the first question is what’s your definition of a heart-led business?

Alexandra Dotcheva: 1:33
That’s a great question. Well, a heart-led business is something that you want to offer people to solve problems that you have solved for yourself. When you strongly believe that you can help them solve similar problems, because usually we’re all human and we share a very common set of problems. And as we often don’t like talking about, and these are exactly the problems that I like to help as a heart-led business owner.

Tom: 1:53
Yeah, I love that a lot because that’s kind of my philosophy around sales as well is that it’s all about solving problems rather than trying to get people to buy something. So I love your definition of that. So what inspired you to start a heart-led business?

Alexandra Dotcheva: 2:06
So just a minor correction to the introduction. If you don’t mind, that was very nice to hear that was a virtuoso, but the problem is I really wasn’t such as much virtuosic as I wanted to be. And that’s why I became a nurse and later a real estate investor and a business owner, because the violin didn’t work so well. And that’s where all the problems stemmed to begin with. Okay. Big problems with self confidence and self reliance and trust in my ability were over two decades. And a lot of it was really self inflicted, but also some outside experiences. So when I changed the careers twice and I’m still a nurse, I’m still a nurse proudly and with the other businesses, but that lack of self trust is what led to the other changes. And then later on, when I wrote my book and published it in 2021, it’s called”It Really Is Simple, A Holistic Approach to Self Confidence”, that was really the focus. But the book led to showing people how I solve all of my life aspects, issues, health, career spirituality, wealth building, and then relationship prioritization. And that’s what led to the coaching business, but it was not like an overnight event at all. Okay. So the solution to my problems was what led to the business and the coaching. Because people, after they read the book, they said, why are you not coaching people? I said, well, I really thought that the book was enough. It wasn’t a means to advertise the business. It was a means in itself to help people solve whatever they need to solve and find ways to be curious and not be afraid to fail and make mistakes and take responsibility for the courses of their own lives. In spite of everybody else’s opinion around them. And then the coaching business came as a sequel to the book. So the book is very comprehensive in itself. You really don’t need my coaching and pay more money than just buying the book and see what that is all about. And they’ll say, ah, I get it. Many aha moments and you will be way on your way to improve a lot about your self trust and reliance and perseverance. And you know, all these wonderful things that they’re talked about, but for whatever reason, people don’t get to fully comprehend and embrace to truly change their lives for the better.

Tom: 3:59
Yeah, well, it would be great if people just take the advice from a book and actually implement it. That’s really why they wanted you to coach them because people don’t take that personal responsibility sometimes or they’re unable to implement what they learn from just reading a book. So tell me a little bit about kind of how your business is. Cause it sounds you have multiple businesses already set up. How are each of those kind of structured and especially from leading with the heart and walk me through that.

Alexandra Dotcheva: 4:25
So that’s an interesting question. So the, with the real estate businesses, I own my own businesses. I manage my own businesses. And the hard part is I can tell you that I went since I really learned from my mentors about the real estate market timely enough to purchase properties where they were at a price where I could really structure it in a way that the rent would perfectly cover my cashflow needs, but not skin the residents with high rents. That was before the bubble completely exploded, right? I started, I’ve been in the business for 10 years. So I bought my properties early in the bubble, relatively early. And right now I can tell you pretty confidently that my real estate properties have the most affordable prices in the entire Phoenix Valley. Everything else in the market around these neighborhoods where I have properties are at least 100, 800 more costly per month in rent than my properties are, and I maintain my properties well. I’m not some kind of a slum lord who, you know, just lets people live there like dogs. No, what I mean, the first property I bought was one of those properties where absentee owners said, no, I’m not gonna be that type of a business owner. Absolutely not, because I treat my real estate properties as businesses. Each of one is, each of them is in a business structure. Legally, tax wise, everything’s set with lawyers and I just do it the right way to be able to provide really good, safe housing and good quality housing to people for a completely affordable price. That is something that I don’t see in many landlords and many other business owners in this area and in this niche. So I pride myself to say that I was a tenant for 14 years before I. started the real estate business and actually my first property was a fourplex. I went through all the learning curves with renovating apartments and making first three apartments for the tenants available for rent and being nicely recovered and well renovated. And ours, we left just as it was broken, dirty, nasty, old until we moved out to rent it. And then I learned how to paint and all lots of handy skills that I had to learn after being a violinist, then a nurse, you know, so I figured, well, I do hands on care on people, you know, nurses do lots of things with people in the hospital. So why can’t I just do this with the house? Same thing the house is the patient now is the business and you take it to heart. And truly it’s so important to be able to provide to people. One of the ways of giving is to not take from people what you don’t really need to take from them. In this case, inflate the rents like crazy because you’re greedy or you didn’t budget your other expenses properly. Because not all these landlords had to necessarily blast the rents by 500 dollar difference. They didn’t have to do that because I know many of them bought early in the market. So they weren’t stupid to buy late in the bubble. And then they have to put these outrageous rates to cover their expenses and have some minimal cashflow at the end of the month. I didn’t do that. I chose not to because I just don’t think it’s ethical and that’s the hard part of the business, right? Business from the heart.

Tom: 6:58
Yeah.

Alexandra Dotcheva: 6:58
In this example.

Tom: 6:59
Yeah, that’s really interesting too, that you know, just a great example is that fourplex where you improved the other ones and not your own, so that you could provide really nice housing and at an affordable rate, which is, yeah that’s very rare. So how do your tenants react to that type of arrangement for you?

Alexandra Dotcheva: 7:16
Well, they’ve been there eight, nine years now, seven, but would you ever worry about the properties? I mean, they stay in because they see what the market is like. And I always respond to their requests to renovate. So we really have good relationship. I didn’t lose any tenant during the COVID crisis. Nobody took advantage of the government nonsense saying that,”Oh, I don’t have a job, but I don’t have to prove it to you. So I don’t have to pay rent.”, None of them did that because they knew that I had treated them like human beings, like peers. And of course they are peers. They’re peers. Wonderful people who work their butts off to provide for their families. So, they appreciated that. I mean, they knew they couldn’t go anywhere else once the crisis was over. And plus there was never an issue with these people to try to manipulate me into believing that there was an issue with their salary and they couldn’t pay. I never experienced this as a landlord. I was very fortunate but I had provided the ground for that with my business ethic and treating them respectfully right from the get go. And I have tenants who have had pretty problematic lives in lots of respects, and I’ve given them chances to rehabilitate and, you know, and it’s worked great. I mean, not always. It didn’t always work. I mean, I have had evictions along the way, but those who worked, they’ve been there for many years now, and I’m grateful, and it’s been great.

Tom: 8:22
So what in your history and your backstory that created such a giving attitude that you have? I mean to go into nursing and then to provide really good housing at an affordable rate, and that’s I would consider it kind of a rare rarity in this world to have, you know, be such a giver like that. So what kind of prompted you to really lead with that heart?

Alexandra Dotcheva: 8:42
Well, for one thing, as a musician, I didn’t really feel useful to society in the way I wanted to, because I wasn’t at the caliber of the great soloists who concertize in beautiful halls and really provide phenomenal performances and deliver at every stage performance that magnitude level of musicianship and technicality and interpretation and rendition of the beautiful music that they’re playing. I wasn’t at that level. I really struggled a lot with confidence and I barely was able to deliver 70 percent of what I was able to perform in a practice room on stage. So in that case, you’re like, okay, so I should be able to do better with my life. Something else, something different. So at 32, I hit this early midlife crisis and I figured, Let’s start taking care of people. Really understand reality, because many musicians, they think they know about reality. Yeah, we really don’t, because you’re so single-minded into your artistic world and your imagination and all that stuff. And no, it doesn’t work that way in real life. So with nursing, that taught me a lot to leave my ego behind and put the patients priorities first and their problems. And then with the real estate, see, my family went through a lot of hardship during the transition from socialism to democracy, which still hasn’t worked in Bulgaria for 35 years, I hate to say, because my country is unique in corruption and all of them have corruption, but in Bulgaria just really seems to be. We had lots of people help us at some various points in life and including when my parents had to leave their first apartment in Bulgaria. There was a wonderful colleague who rented her apartment to my parents, but at extremely affordable prices, which in Bulgaria was unheard of. And when my mother would call her,”Hey, we need to increase the rents because inflation is crazy in Bulgaria right now.”, she said. Well, I heard they actually decreased the rents right now. So she never really charged us. She just wanted somebody to take care of that apartment and nominal rent. And this is why I figured if she could do it, I can do this affordably and still have cashflow at the end of the month. Because see, make no mistake. The purpose of investing, and I learned from my mentors, you need to start making money right from the get go. I don’t deal with negative cashflow. That is absolutely not an option in my investing, but you can still do it in ways that are convenient for the people who rent your properties. And you can have the cashflow that you need if you make a good plan. And if you structure your deal in ways that you can do this. So it takes a little bit more work and studying, but I don’t mind that I’m not a lazy type of person. So this is how you work with your previous experiences. You see who has helped you say, well, can I do something different? Of course, you most likely won’t be able to help the people who helped you, but the hope is that along the way you’ll help somebody else and somebody else. That’s how things flow in life, unfortunately, or fortunately, depends how you see it.

Tom: 11:09
Paying it forward. So you’re, you’ve been paid forward and you’re paying it forward as well, which is just a beautiful thing. So let’s talk a little bit about your book. What prompted you to write a book about self confidence?

Alexandra Dotcheva: 11:19
People started asking questions. So first, those who knew me, how lost I was in lack of any faith in my abilities at first, I mean, for many years in this. So how did that happen? And you’ll drastically change professions, from an art profession to a science profession without having any clue of science. Then you’re successful as a nurse and now you’re real estate investor. You need nothing about finance and you find way to go to the gym two and a half hours a day, four days a week. You eat plant-based diet and you’re ridiculously healthy. You’re approaching 50. What the hell are you doing? Right? So they wanted to know that. And then strangers started asking these questions. And at some point I thought, okay, there are five aspects in life. I treat each of them the exact same way. I have the same system for all five. What would be the book that I would have loved to have been able to read since it was 2020. So I would say 12 years ago at that point, it was 12 years since I made all this progress 12 years ago. What would it be a book that I really would have loved to be able to read? And the idea came to two minutes. It took exactly two minutes to have this structure of the book emerged in my brain. And I wrote the book in six months. It’s 400 pages. Then I edited it for a year and a half before I even offered it to a professional editor. Because I’m a Bulgarian. My English is okay. And in writing, it’s better than spoken. But there were still, you know, repetitions. When you write such a massive work, you need to eliminate repetitions. And still be able to say things differently. So different people can get their aha moment at different moments. Still the same idea, but how do you say it is so important. And that’s how it happened. But yeah, the editing was just ridiculous. Yeah, if I knew I would be editing so much I probably would have never approached the project. So ignorance in the beginning is always a good thing. And then just stick with the idea and the mission of the idea and you’ll persevere and it’ll get it, it’ll get done eventually, but so that’s how the book came across.

Tom: 12:59
So people were asking you questions about what changes you went through. And so that prompted you to write the book and then people were reading the book and said, you should do coaching. And that got you into the coaching business. Is that kind of how it.

Alexandra Dotcheva: 13:11
Yeah. Especially the host of the podcast. They were like, ah, so you’re a coach, right? And I said no, I don’t really coach. I mean, 5, 10, 12 calls. So you’re a coach, right? Why aren’t you a coach? Why aren’t you a coach? He said, okay, I’m a coach. Fine. So then I created the modules and the 12 week program with one year of free access to phone or any contacts if they have questions. So yeah, 12 week program. That’s how it emerged from the book.

Tom: 13:33
Oh, that’s very cool. And so what type of results are people getting from going through your program?

Alexandra Dotcheva: 13:37
It all depends how much they listen to me, right? I mean, I don’t tiptoe around them. I don’t sugarcoat things. I’m from the Balkan peninsula, so I’m very blunt, okay? I’m not afraid of hurting people’s feelings at all. And it’s different with the patients though, because they’re very sick. I’m just as blunt with my patients, but I word it differently because they’re the sick person, but they’re sick for a reason. When you have three chronic diseases that are completely reversible, I mean, you can do better in your life, right? But when you approach me as a client, as a coach from the coaching perspective, and you’re paying money to be coached, then we’re going to be even more honest with each other. And really, I mean, I drill them about time management. I absolutely, that’s just every assignment includes, How they manage the 24 hours of their day over the last week, and that continues for 12 weeks. And as we add more tasks, because we start first with the health aspect, then we discuss spirituality in the context of health, mind, health, mind training, and then financial understanding. Then we discuss career choices. How you, why did you choose to be useful to society in this particular way? Then we go into the wealth aspect because career and wealth are two different things. I’m sorry, people confuse them. They think it’s the same. No, it’s not the same. And then finally we go, the toughest thing is the relationships, choices, prioritizations, handling, management, because how you, who you choose to hang around will influence everything else. All the other four aspects in your life. You chose the wrong crowd. Your life will go along with the wrong crowd and then you won’t be happy with this whole holistic, how holistically wrong your life is going. So we want to elevate all these aspects. And the results they see several of them have been extremely successful. Reversed two chronic conditions, kind of two reverse chronic conditions, and then bought one investment property now on the way to buy his second investment property. Going very well, but he had to buy a very bit of property because of the high prices. So to get a lower price, I mean, it’s different on the market, but when they get it and they really get into that, it’s great. And many people who actually read the books and that totally changed my perspective on life. Now I’m going to work on this X, Y, and Z. And they say that and they don’t need coaching. And that’s my goal with the book because I don’t need client stone. I’m a very financially independent person. I can stop working at any point in time because the cash from my investments more than five times, six times exceeds my monthly expenses. Extremely. Well rounded there, but if they come for coaching, I drill them on every life aspect because we always find the problem outside of the area they’re fixated on at the moment. And it’s surprising to see how much people neglect the other aspects of their lives when they fixate on something that actually needs to be first left aside to fix the other things, but the other things are harder and they require more responsibility and more determination. And that’s where we say, Oh well, this is the real problem.”, that’s your elephant in the room and it’s about to break the walls of the room, but you’re still ignoring that. So no, let’s take a step back and see that. And when they get convinced to listen and to kind of make it to be their own idea. Because if it comes from you, it’s one thing, but if it comes from them and they’re much more cooperative when their own desire to change it and overcome the fear that they won’t be able to, everybody’s able to change. Everybody is, it’s just to help them see that they are able to, and there is no more room for negotiation and excuses and, you know, rationalizations.

Tom: 16:36
Cool. And so talking about, you know, The Heart-Led Business Show is really about how do we balance making a profit, making money and being okay with that. And still leading with the heart because a lot of heart-led business owners or want to be heart-led business owners feel like they can’t charge what they’re worth or they have a bad relationship with sales or cash. And so how have you balanced making a profit and doing very well for yourself and still being a heart-led business?

Alexandra Dotcheva: 17:05
To tell you it’s very easy. I’ll give you an example with myself. Before I became an investor, I read six books of Robert Kiyosaki, the founder of the Rich Dad Company. To gain his, my, he could gain my trust. And then I mean, but his books were meant to advertise his business. At that point, I didn’t know that, but I learned a lot from the books, but then I really went into his coaching online. And there was a great point there that you can not rely on free information to get properly motivated. 99 percent of people are that mindset. And that was the same with me because at the time his course costed a lot of money for my perspective as a beginning nurse. And I had to really plan to save this money and reimburse my credit card and really do well to not have this awful death through months of interest. And when I applied this and when I invested my own money which seemed like a lot of money at the time. I was responsible to take action when I did that because it’s one thing to read a cheap book or somebody tells you, offers you a free webinar. It’s wonderful. But if you don’t invest your own cash, you don’t put your money in the fire, so to speak your skin in the fire, you won’t commit. And I was the exact same case. So that’s how I learned because it was the best money ever spent on that real estate coaching program. And I immediately applied it like literally four months later, we came to Arizona from Syracuse, New York, and I spent the first month building my real estate team. It was insane busy. And then I had to purchase the first property two months later, but you commit when you actually spend the money. And it’s sad that most people’s brains work that way. But when you commit money, when you pay for your education, for your improvement, for your growth, then you say, okay, so I spent all that money. Might as well take action. I mean, if you don’t take action after that, my time is just as valuable people, so you pay me for my time because I don’t need clients. Like I said, I really have perfectly well arranged financial life already, but if you want my time and my knowledge and you want to really commit, you will pay for it because otherwise you won’t commit. I mean, I’ve seen it so many times, especially with myself too. I’m just as guilty as have been. Just as guilty, not being able to take action or not being decisive enough after I do something. You read a book that’s given for me for free as a marketing tool. And I said, and I did try to take steps and now I can do it better. But when I first started with my self improvement and growth, forget it. I mean, I would do steps, but it’s just some psychological thing about investing in yourself, actually paying someone to teach you. And it worked great for me and I’ve seen it working great for other people because they become more self obligated when that happens. Everybody works hard for their money. Most people do. And especially people who are at the beginning of their crisis crossroads in life, a bad midlife crisis, they don’t have all the money that they want to have. So if that person spends the money, you know they really are serious about their business and you see great progress in them. It’s wonderful. And then it pays tenfold afterwards.

Tom: 19:49
Yeah.

Alexandra Dotcheva: 19:49
It’s not money lost.

Tom: 19:50
That’s great. So just kind of a side question here, but have you ever had to fire a client because they aren’t doing the work?

Alexandra Dotcheva: 19:57
Oh I fired him at the start because see, the first coaching session is free. One, two, three hours free. And I instantly know if that’s, I will very quickly tell when the conversation is going in the wrong direction, how many justifications they have for their laziness, for their reluctance to do this, and this. I can tell because people’s behavior tends to repeat. And I just want to know for how long they’ve repeated certain mistakes. And it’s also very important what motivates them to change because some motives are false. And they may or may not know it, but if we discuss that and we see that it’s not going to work, I don’t even take a penny from them and that they’re fired right from the start. If they start with me, I haven’t had to fire them because they’re now committed. mean, we might get some unpleasant conversations along the way and that inevitably happens with some people. But I haven’t had to fire them because they’re now invested. And plus there is a contract. I mean, you don’t get your money back. Once you start, you go to the grocery store, you pay for groceries and you go home, same thing. But After an hour, two, three hours of conversation, we can tell if we’re not for each other and we’re part friends. That’s the best way to do it because that’s like you screen every client that way. Same with residents for your property to do some screening. Can you be wrong with the screenings? Absolutely. But with coaching, it’s just a different dynamic. It’s not like, with the real estate business. So, so far so good. Good question though.

Tom: 21:06
That’s really great too. And I want to repeat what you said there, that having that first initial conversation and whether it’s free or low dollar amount is so critical to find out if they are a good fit for you and if you’re a good fit for them. And then you can part friends, like you said, and not go down the road a month later and go, Oh gosh, I really don’t want to have that call again with this client. And then you’re not bringing your full self. They’re not bringing their full self and they’re not getting, and then just I’ve had that issue with fitness training and never worked out.

Alexandra Dotcheva: 21:36
Yeah no, it doesn’t. And or sometimes you have the conversation with the client and you say, okay, so why don’t you, instead of spending, you know, over 3,500 dollars on your 12 week session, why don’t you get the book first? Because the paperback is 19 bucks and the eBook, which is the exact same book, will be 7 bucks, 6.99. I mean, come on, get that, see that, and see if it makes sense. And if it makes sense, great. Come to me. If you shouldn’t come to me after, if you do what I told you to do, you really shouldn’t have to come me at all. Right. But in case you still want some reassurance, emotional support, whatever, nitty gritty, because we get into a lot of detail in the coaching. Okay. It’s really drilling them with details and it’s extremely intense. And I hold them accountable for. A lot. And I mean, some people don’t like that. Most people don’t. But that’s what my coaches did with me. I mean, the first thing was the time management tool. And it’s just so important to see how much time you waste. And it was funny Tom, because when I had to fill that time thing for my coach for a week I started doing and then I started changing it because I realized what I was going to write was stupid because I did something completely time. Okay, so I have to really write what I did and then the next week I’ll do better because you confront your own lack of integrity when you say that you spent four hours doing things that didn’t contribute to your personal growth and you want to tell your coach that you didn’t do that. It’s because I’m online now. So no, let’s say that in the course. So it is four hours on Monday. Why did you exactly have to do this and not this? I said, well, yeah, I know. Next week I’ll do better. Honestly, I did better and I’ve had an honest account for the coach. So this is really important. And everything depends on your time management and discipline.

Tom: 23:04
Yeah. Well, those tools of any kind of tracking tool is so valuable, you know, tracking your time, tracking your sales, tracking your food, even like all of that is, you know, is so

Alexandra Dotcheva: 23:15
Especially your food.

Tom: 23:16
Especially food. Right. And I think there was a study done where they had a group of people that same diet, one tracked it, one didn’t track. And the people who tracked lost more weight than the people who did not track because they weren’t completely honest with what they were eating. So yeah, tracking is such a cool tool. That’s awesome. So Alexandra, how can people learn more about you and what you do and potentially get some of your help?

Alexandra Dotcheva: 23:40
I have a website, it’s called holisticselfconfidence.com. So they can email me for a coaching session there. They can purchase the book. Here is the book. That’s what it looks like. Okay. It really is simple, a holistic approach to self confidence. Come on it’s not a hard read though. It’s really isn’t because it’s just so, I try to structure it as simply as possible. I don’t have the biggest English, largest English vocabulary. I did my best to express myself very understandably yet. I mean, it’s not always sugarcoated in the book because I’m, like I said, I’m very blunt, so there are some pesky moments there might irritate some people, but I don’t care because the point is to irritate you so you can start working on yourself and see that, you know, you’re most of what your arguments are BS, right? Because I went through the same path. It’s not like I’m tearing somebody apart without first done it with me. And I’ve described that in the book as well, but holisticselfconfidence.com is the website. There is a blog there. There are coaching material. I mean, the coaching page. You can see what I teach them if they’re interested. But like I said, get the book first, if at all, because you will already learn so much about mental techniques to overcome certain handicaps in thinking in mindset that you may really not need my coaching in the end. And I hope you don’t, if I really did a good job with the book. So holisticselfconfidence.com is where you start. And then he has links to my socials, YouTube channel, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, all that.

Tom: 24:57
Awesome. Well, we’ll link all that up into the show notes as well. So it’d be easy for people to find it, click there and check out what you’re doing. I want to thank you so much for sharing your story, and sharing your advice as well.

Speaker 2: 25:11
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